Da Tulsi Gabbard brøt med Demokratene og gikk sin egen vei, startet hun en podcast hvor Tucker var gjest 13. desember. I intervjuet forteller Tucker at han vet at e-tjenestene kontrollerer flere medlemmer av Kongressen. Han forteller om en lunsj han hadde med leder for etterretningskomiteen der vedkommende forteller at National Security Agency overvåker alt han sier og gjør.

“There are members of Congress who are controlled by the Intel agencies,” Carlson said. “I’m not speculating on this. You know, I lived there for 35 years. I know this. I had a very high-ranking, very high-ranking member of the House Intel Committee tell me at dinner, at a restaurant in Washington when he’d been drinking, ‘we’ve got to talk about this.’ And I said, ‘oh, I’ll text you.’ He goes, ‘I can’t text.’ And I said, ‘why is that?’ And he goes, ‘well, because NSA reads my text.’ And I said, ‘NSA reads, wait, you’re the head guy on the intelligence committee. You are their boss. You’re providing oversight in our constitution, constitutional system.’ He’s like, ‘yeah, but you know, they’re still spying at me’.”

Gabbard ble kalt en nikkedukke for Putin av bl.a. Hillary da hun tillot seg å kritisere Russia collusion-kampanjen.

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